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1. Burnsybhoy 07.07.04 / 6pm

   The best bit about this deal wasnt the way Novo paid his “own” way to Rangers, but how Celtic bid half a million purely to cost the manky mob an extra hundred grand that you really havent got. Priceless!!
2. Fat Eck - your grateful Editor 07.07.04 / 8pm

   BUrnsybhoay

   Gid to see yer still obssesed with the Rangers websites.

   Stop fighting it, Luke - come on over to the Dark Side!

   It might lighten ye up …

   Fat(cheek to talk about anyine needing to “lighten up”)Eck
3. BRYANO 07.07.04 / 10pm

   Novo is a wee nob end. I’m glad he joined the scum as he aint Celtic Class
4. Stuart 07.08.04 / 10am

   Aahh, after enduring the “Little Englander” mentality of the BBC/ITV teams at the Euro 2004 championships, isn’t it nice to see that they don’t have a complete monopoly on small-mindedness and petty parochialism? Step forward Bryano; tell me, if he “ain’t celtic class”, why has he upset you so much by not signing for your lot??? Funny how anyone with the audacity to NOT play for celtic is “scum” or “filth” - witness the reactions to Liam Miller, Nacho Novo, Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbaink joining other clubs.

   And Burnsybhoy, the extra
5. Bryano 07.08.04 / 7pm

   Small-mindedness and petty parochialism!!! Obviously your are not being small minded and parochial in your judgment of me. The comment was made to entice some numb minded fool into replying…well done Stuart, you have won the gold medal for being a total prick
6. Stuart 07.08.04 / 7pm

   Wow, Bryano - you’re really clever - far too clever for me. Please, please tell me how I could have seen through your cunning disguise - pretending to be a git, but in reality conducting a really really clever experiment. Obviously, you must have left some clue as to your real self, otherwise your reply would make you look stupid, which you obviously aren’t, judging by your really really clever experiment and devastingingly clever reply, displaying your rapier-sharp wit and flair with words………

   I’d like to give you a gold medal, but you’d only go and have it bronzed…
7. Anonymous 07.08.04 / 7pm

   Arteta is finaly gone with (according to English and Spanish newspapers)a 2.6 million price tag, whats the odds tomorrows Scottish papers announce upwards of 3.8, any takers?
8. Bryano 07.08.04 / 8pm

   devastingingly….Are you sure this is the correct spelling? You are almost as clever Gazza
9. delbhoy 07.08.04 / 9pm

   It’s the close season again.

   Celtic are slow to make a signing.
   Rangers bringing them in one by one.
   Rangers steal one from Martin O’Neil.

   Summer 2004 - just like summer 2003.

   Emerson or Novo?
   Berg or Boumsong?
   Capucho or Prso?
   Vanoli or Rae?

   Anyone spot the common theme in:-

   a) The names on the left?
   b) The Scottish media reaction to the signing of the names on the right?
   c) The manager responsible for them?

   Seen it all before. With McLeish in charge, it’ll be a long hard winter for the boys in blue. They ain’t good enough, he ain’t good enough.
10. Fat Eck - your reassured Ed 07.08.04 / 9pm

    Oh ya beauty!

    So many sellik chaps coming on here, desperate to reassure themselves they’re not worried about next season! So frantically and seriously attempting to bully-down any sign of Rangers optimism. So po-faced, so mean-spirited - so Un-FEKIN-HAPPY!! YA dancer!!

    We’re Getting tae yese - and the season hasn’t even kicked off yet!!!

    HULLLLLOOOOOO!!!

    Fat Eck
11. delbhoy 07.08.04 / 10pm

    Hey Eck,

    Have I cherged ye into life in my first comment in months? I’ve been away for a while, first visit back to your site for a few months in the middle of Euro 2004 - great articles, reminded me of what decent stuff you can write when you put your mind to it!

    However, ye still occassionally talk cack, just like the rest of us. You can’t seriously be suggesting that we’re cacking our pants at the thought of the signings coming to Broxie’s hoose. SURELY NOT!

    C’mon big man, give us a well put together article on Rangers and the players that have left versus the players that are left, just like those well judged, thoughtful and occasionally witty Euro 2004 assessments. Go on. Go on, go on, go on. Go on.

    I know that any change from last season must be seen as positive down Broxi Way, but are you really chuffed about the names being brought in? Really?

    Are you still confident in yer namesake at the helm? I told ye last year what trend he showed at Motherwell and Hibs and predicted exactly the same trend would follow as soon as he bought his own players. It’ll continue - honest. It will. I know it, you know it and Martin O’Neill knows it.

    O’Neill will do his stuff in his usual slow, deliberate way. Always under budget, always succesful. Even the year he won nowt he still achieved more than any Old Firm manager in decades.

    If he leaves I’ll worry. Until then, we just sit back, stay cool and enjoy watching the media build up your hopes on the back of budget-get-what-ye-pay-for signings.

    Looking forward to 7 in a row in August….toodleoothenoo.
12. Burnsybhoy 07.12.04 / 6pm

    Stuart.

    Give you your due, mate. Your still a damn good comedian!

    Eck.

    Totally and utterly obsessed (s’s the correct way round, ahem)! Congrats - youve got it in one! Nah, just joking (honest!!). Whats wrong? Didnt you like my opinion? Or you just scared that it is, in fact, the truth??

    Remind me. Who was the last player to sign for Rangers from Dundee when Celtic were also reportedly interested?? Mr Adamczuk anyone?? And what a belter he turned out to be. Roll on some MAJOR signings…and it wont be from your lot!

    Oh, and what do you mean we’re all worried? The only thing thats stopping me getting some sleep is the thought of the King of Kings returning to haunt us in the Champions league. Thats right, the CHAMPIONS league! Tata for now.
13. vanderhogg 07.13.04 / 9am

    Must admit, more than happy with the purchase of Novo for less than
14. Stuart 07.13.04 / 10am

    Vanderhogg - Bryano “raising the bar” - he’s more likely to prop it up……As for “irony”, he’ll think that’s something used to get creases out of his shirty. Using terms like that will just confuse him, and I’m sure you wouldn’t want to demean yourself by descending far enough to his intellectual level to insult him in a way he’s likely to understand.

    Let’s just ignore this wee boy - he’ll soon get bored and go away once he hits puberty in a few years time. Let’s concentrate on winding up Burnsybhoy, Timahoy, Charles (don’t want to leave you out, mate - you might get paranoid!) etc - we might not agree with what they say, but at least they have a point of view worth arguing with.
15. Fat Eck - your astounded Editor 07.13.04 / 11am

    “we might not agree with what they say, but at least they have a point of view worth arguing with.”

    Bloody hell, Stuart - you’re feeling charitable, mate! :-)

    Next time any of these three produces “a point of view worth arguing with” gonnae let me know! :-)

    Fat Eck
16. Stuart 07.13.04 / 11am

    Yep, that Prozac’s definitely kicking in now……

    Perhaps I should have added “in comparison” ;)
17. Bryano 07.13.04 / 12pm

    Ladeez your comments are soooooo stinging - if you are not at all bothered about what I have to say then why bother to pass comment.

    The irony is that you have let a so called fool (FYI ME) wind you up so much that you have gone against what you have stated and bothered to reply. More fool you!!!!!

    See ya in the CL - supposing you get through.
18. Fat Eck - your curious druged-up Editor 07.13.04 / 12pm

    LOL! Aye, Stuart - reading those bhoys perpetually paranoid patter would drive anyone to prescribed drugs. Me? I just stick to the Guiness … because, UNLIKE the Murphy’s … :-)

    Oops - hang on - wee feedback comment from Brainless Bryano has just landed on our desk and … YES - once again, he’s had the sense of humour bypass - appears we’re not allowed to arve a larf. MUST stick to the spelling mistooks and Rangers being shite - sorry, Brain-no.

    Stuart - do you ever wonder why these guys spend so much time on a Rangers website? I can honestly count on the fingers of one hoof the number of times I’ve looked up Semlltik fansites, uninvited.

    Don’t get me wrong EVERYONE’s welcome on here - the more sellik bhoayses the better but is it just me? Do other Bluneoses check out, for instance, OpenFootie’s very own CFC cloud as a matter of interest?

    Furthermore, do all the hooped horrors who come onto this site ALSO spend as much time on the celtic openfootie site - or are you just more interested in getting yerselves all riled up?

    Anyway - answers on a postcard please …

    Fat Eck
19. Stuart 07.13.04 / 1pm

    Bryano, If I rose to the bait every time, I’d have to pass comment more often than you pass wind based on the amount of sh*te you write.

    BTW, you’re the only one to have called yourself a “fool” so far, but if the (dunce’s) cap fits…

    Fat Eck - I thought it would be obvious why celtic fans have to write in to Rangers message boards - it’s the only way they can improve their eduka..educasio…edoocat….learning! If we continue to indulge them and keep teaching them the errors of their ways, maybe one day they’ll see the light and start supporting a REAL team instead of that load of Muppet Show refugees in hoops (isn’t Neil Lennon a dead ringer for Beaker, even down to the ridiculous hair?).

    Think that Prozac’s wearing off…….

    I did post a couple of things on CFC OF some time ago, but gave up when they went totally off-topic and suggested that by supporting Rangers I was guilty of bigotry by association (this was during a discussion about the celtic FOOTBALL team and how good (or otherwise) they were). There’s just no fun in even trying to wind up people so fundamentally stupid as to try & twist any argument about football into a sectarian debate, so now I just leave them to their ignorance.
20. Bryano 07.14.04 / 12pm

    Stuart, I sense a great deal of anger in the comments you post - perhaps watching your team week in week out has made you deranged. I suggest you try watching a team who are going places both domestically and on the European stage as a remedy to this problem.

    The suggestion that anyone could enhance their education by reading the comments posted by a few psuedo-intellectuals - well that is the funniest thing I have read in months - with the obvious exception of the Craig Moore saga, oh and the rest of the postings you make.
21. vanderhogg 07.15.04 / 10am

    The Dims just can’t help themselves, can they?
22. Burnsybhoy 07.15.04 / 7pm

    Your Eckness.

    Aye I do go on the Celtic site but not much to talk about over there…although im beginning to wonder what the point is of this site aswell. I prefer to have a logical conversation with whoever wants to but it seems to me that you are more interested in having personal slagging matches with others. You criticise Bryano for slagging Rangers and for him commenting on spelling mistakes but it is you and other bluenoses who are keeping the subject going. I put up a point about Novo, who the thread was about in the first place, and you overlook it (should I take the hint??) but you feel obliged to argue with people who you say are childish.

    Stuart.

    You especially should no not to get involved as you, at least, have enough intelligence to make legitimate points.

    Back to Novo.

    Good luck to the boy. Well as much luck as I would wish on someone playing for the dark side. He obviously had it in his head that he wanted to got to from the beginning, whether it because of a better chance of first team football, the fact that his pals from Dundee are at Ibrox or in the unlikely event that he actually thinks he’s joining a bigger club or better team. As soon as it was made clear his choice was to be Rangers then I for one didnt want him to change it. Im sure if the boot was on the other foot then the Rangers fans would feel the same.

    Anyway, better go and leave you to your childish arguments! Haha!
23. Stuart 07.15.04 / 10pm

    Burnsybhoy & all the other Tims (except Bryano)

    Hey, don’t take it so seriously lads! Now that the Euro championships are over, I’m just starting to warm up for the domestic season with a bit of good old-fashioned mud-slinging and childish insults. To tell the truth, it wouldn’t be nearly as much fun if we were all bluenoses furiously agreeing with each other - it’s nice to have some dissenting voices we can get stuck into.

    Bryano, I’m just toying with you, like a cat with a shrew. You must have led a very sheltered life if you think that I’m angry - if I do lose the heid, I promise you’ll be the first to know. Don’t take it so much to heart & you’ll be fine.

    On the subject of Novo, I hope he does the same to celtic as Mo Johnston did and that Fatson has done to Rangers. Same situation (kind of) - looks to be going to one half of the OF, then ends up on the other side. At least he’ll be better than Mols…..
24. vanderhogg 07.16.04 / 10am

    Michael Mols…….

    A traffic cone in the street would have been better than Michael Mols, but then in a website and fanzine far far away I’ve been saying that since January 2003……

    Love VDH xxx
25. TIMAHOY 07.17.04 / 1pm

    On NOVO.
    I’d think that most Celtic fans would have looked on Novo as a squad player, nothing more and nothing less.
    If he’d came to Parkhead then we’d embrace him and now he’s chosen to go the other route we’ll bollox him, just as Rangers fans would have done.
    IMHO, he knew that he would not be first choice at Celtic Park and would stroll into that position at Ibrox.
    Mo Johnston and John Harteson, I don’t believe these situations are similar, BBJ was willing to sign for Rangers who decided he wasn’t good enough for them, and a pox on the other turncoat who I’ve met several times in America, and believe me if he could turn back the clock he’d do it different.
    That point in your history should be revered, because that’s when GS reversed the blasphemous practice of not hiring Catholics and allowed his followers to do likewise, and so bringing in better players, who knows in another 100-120 years you’ll even allow players to bless themselves, like teams in countless other nations do.
26. Bryano 07.17.04 / 1pm

    Stuart, I don’t really take much to heart and I particularly don’t pay any credence to some of the rubbish you spout. Granted you do produce some comment worthy of debate, however your attitude is comparable to a number of your peers on this forum one of supposed superiority. You attempt to belittle other opinion through your use of the English Language rather than actually producing a worthwhile argument to counter such opinion - I for one find you laughable.

    Vanderhogg - as above only on a larger scale
27. Stuart 07.17.04 / 7pm

    Ok Bryano, contribute something worthy of debate and we’ll debate it. So far, your biggest contribution has been to say “Novo is a wee nob end”, and to call me a “prick”. Pardon me, but I would have to have a severe inferiority complex not to feel superior to someone whose postings display the wit of a 5-year old. Subsequently, you have shown yourself to be (I believe) capable of greater eloquence than I had originally thought, so why don’t you use this ability positively, rather than to just throw tired old insults at me?
28. Derek 07.18.04 / 10am

    Just returned from my holibags and see not much has changed. Firstly Novo, am I the only bluenose who isn’t jumping up and down at his signing? I would welcome him as a squad player, but not as the number one striker. It was suggested we would be getting a big name
29. TIMAHOY 07.18.04 / 1pm

    DEREK
    You echo my sentiments on NOVO although I do think he’ll walk into your team.
    You’ve been to Ibrox much more often than I, but I remember one of the Italians being censured for blessing themselves outside the tunnel, and I don’t believe for one wee second that such a display would revoke no response from the huns.
    The reason I even mentioned it was to point out the fact that Catholics were shunned at Ibrox for over a hundred years until Souness had the balls to defy the establishment.
    MO JO would do it differently, I’m led to believe because in the light and sobriety of the present day he realizes the errors of his way.
    On a personal note, I have a very good friend living inn Glasgow who is the physical double of MO JO and believe me he gets as much abuse from Rangers fans who think it’s the man himself, as he does from Celtic fans, now pray tell what would Rangers fans have to be upset about the man?
30. Bryano 07.18.04 / 8pm

    Ok Stuart,

    Perhaps I should have put it this way - Novo is not the type of player I would have welcomed at Celtic Park. I do not believe that he has sufficient quality to make an impact on the Celtic team, hence the reason I am happy he has signed for Rangers for
31. Anonymous 07.19.04 / 2am

    And the beat goes on.

    Michael Ball missed Rangers’ opening match of their Austrian tour, against FC Furstenfeld last night, but the 24-year-old hopes to make an impact against AS Roma this week.

    The
32. Stuart 07.19.04 / 1pm

    Bryano - I also think Novo would have been a fringe player to begin with at CP, but I think he would have forced his way into the first team sooner rather than later. The loss of Larsson means that O’Neill’s first choice strikers will probably be Hartson & Sutton - both of whom are big, bruising centre forwards. Will the rest of the celtic team be able to resist simply pumping the high ball up to them instead of trying to play more creative, constructive football? If they can’t, and the long-ball option fails to work, then a decent (in SPL terms) finisher like Novo would possibly have been the answer.

    Novo will be first choice at Ibrox simply because he’s the only striker now at Rangers with anything like a decent goal-scoring record, and Rangers desperately need someone capable of getting a reasonable number of shots on target. Last season so much of the good work put in by certain players was wasted by horrendous finishing, which meant that Rangers dominated many matches but too often were unable to kill off teams in the way celtic did with their strikeforce.

    As for Novo not being any better than the players who have left, are you seriously trying to tell me that Ostenstad or Mols were better, or that Lovenkrands is the answer? Yes, Rangers are currently “reduced” to signing forwards for this amount, but remember that Larsson only cost
33. TIMAHOY 07.19.04 / 1pm

    Stuart,
    I agree with a lot of what you say while taking exception to the reason Rangers fans hating MoJo, namely being the fact that he used to play for Celtic, I believe I speak for the great majority of Celtic fans when I say that if the shoe was on the other foot i.e. a former successful Rangers player signing for Celtic, and then playing well for us, then he would be revered and not treated the way MoJo has been by Rangers fans, so I
34. Derek 07.19.04 / 4pm

    Timahoy,
    Sorry, I can’t think of any other reasons, other than the ones Stuart gave, as to why Rangers fans would hate MoJo. Most respect him for the 2 years’ good service that he gave us, although there may be a few who still resent his behaviour when a Celtic player (head-butting Stuart Munro etc) and there are also a few who hate him for the reasons Stuart gave.

    I am very surprised that a lookalike would get as much abuse from Rangers fans as Celtic fans. I hardly ever hear Johnston being referred to in a disparaging manner by Gers fans whereas a contemptuous “Judas” would be the norm from Celtic fans. Perhaps he only gets hassle from the “nutter” element of both supports whereas MoJo is looked upon more favourably by the non-nutter element of the Gers support?

    Burning of scarves? 3 people, who were probably paid to it by the Record.

    What Italian was censured for blessing themselves? I fail to remember that.
35. TIMAHOY 07.19.04 / 5pm

    DEREK,
    I’m surprised by your reply; you normally give somewhat intelligent rebuttals.
    But to try and answer,
    #1 He’s a Catholic
    #2 See #1
    #3 Sorry you obviously were unable or too young to be able to count numbers at that point.
    #4 This will give you reason to come back at me but I forget who, but remember why.
36. Derek 07.20.04 / 9am

    Timahoy,
    Stuart had already said “Unforunately, there are also some bigots amongst the Rangers fans who will always hate him simply for being a Catholic”. Sorry, I thought that there was some other hidden reason.

    So how many scarves were burnt? Some sad ****s did it for the 6 o’clock news on that day, (so was it 4?) but I never witnessed anything else like that, and I went to virtually all the games that season (although missed the last minute winner game at Ibrox :-( )

    So if MoJo was wheeled out in front of both Rangers support and Celtic support, are you telling me you believe that he would get a better reception from the Celtic fans???
37. T 07.20.04 / 12pm
    
    
38. TIMAHOY 07.20.04 / 12pm

    DEREK,
    You and STUART can delude yourselves into believing it was only three or four nutters, but the rest of us know the truth.
    There’s nowhere in my letter where I even hint that MoJo would get a good reception from Celtic fans, on the contrary I alluded to the fact that he’s hated by Celtic fans, and not for the reason that some may think.
    If he had signed for Rangers in the normal run of things, then yes some bampots in hooped shirts would have vilified him, however to parade with the Celtic scarf around his neck on the evening and then sign for Rangers the following morning was an action in which he obviously ignored the feelings of the Celtic faithful and hence the distaste left by him.
    However I still say that if the shoe was on the other foot, then all Celtic fans would have taken the player into their hearts.
39. Stuart 07.20.04 / 1pm

    TIMAHOY - If it was more than 3 or 4 nutters, then how many? 20, 200, 2000, 20,000? If you can’t put a figure on this, then how about telling us if it was a miniscule, small, medium or substantial section of the Renagers support who acted in this way? We know there were some idiots who reacted badly to the idea of a Catholic playing for Rangers, but they were only a very small section of the total Rangers support - just look at the attendances for MoJo’s first season to see that there was no drop in averages for that season. I also don’t remember any of the fans who were there giving him any less support than the rest of the team. So the vast majority of the fans were happy that he was in the side.

    Perhaps the wrath of the celtic fans should have been directed more at the idiots on the board at celtic park, who paraded him at a news conference without actually securing his signature first rather than at the player himself, who simply changed his mind over his next career move when given a better offer.
40. TIMAHOY 07.20.04 / 3pm

    2,257
41. vanderhogg 07.20.04 / 4pm

    Stuart said (and some disagreed) “Unforunately, there are also some bigots amongst the Rangers fans who will always hate him simply for being a Catholic.”

    True - a statement you cannot argue with.

    “Could there also be an element amongst the celtic fans who despise MoJo for being a Catholic playing for a Protestant team??”

    Of course, true. Even though some Dims will argue with it.

    The more recent facts to back this up? The treatment of Neil McCann and Neil McCann’s family…..

    This ain’t a “we’re better than youse” post - this is a “we’re the same, but we know it” post.
42. Anonymous 07.20.04 / 5pm

    vanderhogg

    I know nothing about you or the argument you
43. Derek 07.21.04 / 12pm

    Timahoy,
    So the Celtic fans would take Ricksen to their hearts if he signed tomorrow?
44. TIMAHOY 07.21.04 / 12pm

    DEREK.
    I’m sorry but I can’t put Ricksen and successful in the same sentence no matter how I try!!!
45. Derek 07.21.04 / 2pm

    So that’s a no?
46. Stuart 07.21.04 / 5pm

    Derek, never mind the celtic fans - how many RANGERS fans would welcome Ricksen signing on at Ibrox??
47. TIMAHOY 07.21.04 / 10pm

    Derek, I don’t know how else to explain this to you, my scenario was a successful Rangers player signing for Celtic and you come back with RICKSEN, I told you I couldn’t equate one with the other and you ask me “so thats a no?” what more do you wish me to say? or are you being a wee devil and taking the mickey,or in your case the billy?
48. Derek 07.22.04 / 1am

    Timahoy,
    Sorry, I don’t see the relevance of the player being successful before he joins your club as to whether he would be accepted or not.
49. TIMAHOY 07.22.04 / 3am

    Derek,
    I don’t think you’re stupid so you must be at the windup, but I’m going to bite and for the last time try and explain, I will not respond to this again.
    The thread started when Stuart said
    “On the subject of Novo, I hope he does the same to celtic as Mo Johnston did and that Fatson has done to Rangers. Same situation (kind of) - looks to be going to one half of the OF, then ends up on the other side”.

    To that point I said that the two cases IMHO are totaly different, I then went to point out the differences and the way both sets of fans viewed MoJo and I said “if a former SUCCESFUL Rangers player signed for Celtic, and then played well for us, then he would be revered and not treated the way MoJo has been by Rangers fans.
    You then asked “So the Celtic fans would take Ricksen to their hearts if he signed tomorrow?”

    This scenario can in no way include Ricksen as he, once again IMHO, is not, will not and cannot in my wildest imagination be a successful Rangers player. I can think of no way to make my point clearer, and if you still don’t get it then I’ve failed you.
    END OF STORY.
50. Derek 07.26.04 / 10am

    Still don’t see why the player has to be successful prior to joining your club. I guess that’s the get-out clause. Any player you don’t like can be called unsuccessful. Of course it all depends on your definition of successful….integral part of treble winning team?….represented country?…..
51. Bill 08.07.06 / 2am

    Good job.
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