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1. Macshoogle 04.08.05 / 1pm

   What an opportunity we have on Tuesday night, if as is widely predicted, David Murray orders a minute’s silence before the game, lets behonest every Celtic supporter in the land will assume we will all be booing and jeering for the full minuite because as you know we are just a bunch of morons whereas they are are all peace and love to your fellow man etc. What a wonderful opportunity to once and for all nail that one and prove them all completely wrong by impeccably observing the minute’s silence. What are the chances?
2. Charles 04.08.05 / 6pm

   I have no idea what the chances are, but it puts us Celtic supporters in an enviable position, if they have and honor the minutes silence, we’ll be greatful and if they don’t honoe it, we’ll be vindicated.
   My bet is that they don’t have one period.
3. Fat Eck - your stupifiED 04.08.05 / 10pm

   So, let me get this right Charles - you’re ready to switch from “grateful” to “vindicated” on the toss of a coin?

   “If they have a minute’s silence for the Pope at Ibrox I will boo through it from first til last second.” There ye go - away and feel vindicated.

   If I’d told you I welcome such a silenece and pledge to observe it impeccably, I assume ye’d be grateful?

   Have a listen to yerself, mate.

   Hail Hail. Emotive, Emotional, emotion-less Blackmail-r-us.

   When Celtic boo the passing of a royal it’s “the right to free speech” - and one I support, by the way - but when we … och, you know the rest. Same old, same old, from the perpetrators of the worst attrocity in Scotish Football’s sordid history… yet still the guardians of all that’s sacred because - well, because they get their morality off the back of a fag packet.

   Way back in the day I was at Kilbowie Park when Rangers played Clydebank in our first game after the passing of the Great Jock Stein. This was the man who, at that time, held Nine-In-A-Row AND the winning of the European Cup over us - he was responsible for the heaviest footballing weights round Ibrox necks - you could have heard a pin drop.

   Those who deserve respect get it. Just as when the Celtic fans stood silent THREE times for Jim Baxter - something i’ll never forget.

   Real people in our real lives.

   Try talking about the semi-finals tomorow and the GAME on Tuesday - that’s what the piece is about. You too “Macshoogle”.

   Fat Eck
4. BigRab 04.08.05 / 10pm

   Charles, there were reputedly over 1,000,000 people queuing to see John Paul’s body at the Vatican. Less than 2000 people in Scotland went to Edinburgh to hear Scotland’s Cardinal read a eulogy in rememberance of the man. Scotland’s catholic population is almost 800,000. By my calculation the % that attended at Edinburgh is 0.25% That 2000 is actually 3.3% of a full house at Parkhead. We see that 10,000 celtic supporters can travel the length and breadth of the country to support their team [100,000 went to Seville reputedly] but hardly a one could make the journey to Edinburgh. It appears that the catholic population of Scotland hasn’t been particularly moved by the death of John Paul. So, please explain why there should be a minutes silence. I don’t know who the present moderator of the C of S is at this time but surely at least one of them has died whilst in office? Were there any minutes of silence in rememberance? Quite simply, no. So, many people will remember John Paul with affection, and many of those people will not be catholic, but I hardly think that football stadia are the most suitable venues for those moments of reflection. Also, you should be ashamed of yourself when you imply that it would actually shed a good light on Celtic football club if the Pope were to be booed at Ibrox on Tuesday night. Anyone who booed would quite simply be a moron, but those knuckle draggers would boo their own grandmothers if they felt it would give them added kudos with their equally moronic sidekicks. However, I would hate for anyone that I held in high esteem to be publicly booed during a minutes silence and whether or not this cast RFC in a better light or not would be a complete irrelevance!
5. Anonymous 04.09.05 / 12am

   Hey Fat Eck, Big Rab just blasted you
6. Bob Loblaw 04.09.05 / 6am

   Hibs-Celtic Final would do nicely Eck.
   Us ‘Weegies’ need some representation, as the Cup Final is held in the best City in Britain, Bar~L…eh
   Bar~none!!!
   A Green and White Final, now that would be great to watch.
   Come on the Hoops.
7. Charles 04.09.05 / 3pm

   Eck, you misunderstand what I’m saying, I hope that if there’s a minutes silence at Ibrox, then it’s honoured, if it’s not honoured then I think that what we’ve been saying all along, which is that the old firm is not equal in bias and that Rangers are the bigger offender, will be clarified to the football audience, in that case we will be vindicated.
   To repeat, I hope if it’s held, it’ll be respected, my bet is that it won’t be held.
8. Gogs 04.10.05 / 9pm

   Forgive my ignorance here Eck, but what atrocity are you referring to? (It’s late at night here in Switzerland, and my brain’s a bit frazzled)

   BigRab

   Well said mate!

   Nameless (accusing Big Rab of ‘blasting’ Eck)

   If you’ve nothing to say, then don’t f**ing say it!!
9. Nathan 04.11.05 / 1am

   I don’t recall the Pope ever being an imperialist occupier of foreign lands. You are right Fat Eck some people do deserve respect and the Holy Father was one of them, the royals are not.
10. Derek 04.11.05 / 11am

    Nathan, that is your opinion (and only an opinion and/or belief), which you are entitled to, but not everyone shares your opinion. The pope, both the man and the position, is open to a lot of serious criticism. Respect has to be earned and the last encumbent didn’t earn the respect of a lot of people.
11. Nathan 04.11.05 / 1pm

    As you said Derek, yours is only an opinion and/or belief. We will agree to disagree.
12. Derek 04.11.05 / 1pm

    Fair enough.
13. Timahoy 04.11.05 / 2pm

    Papers the world over, Canada, America, Australia and New Zealand just to name a few have glaring stories about the shame of Scotlands football fans on Sunday, where is the condemnation in Scotland?
    If you ignore it, then you condone it!
14. Derek 04.11.05 / 3pm

    Timahoy, you are a well-read man. Got to admit I find it difficult to find time to read one Scottish newspaper a day, nevermind as many as you if you define 4 as a few.
15. Boaby 04.11.05 / 5pm

    @Derek:

    As far as Timahoy is concerned, you’d be as well ‘condoning’ him. ;-)
16. Timahoy 04.11.05 / 6pm

    Derek when I said “If you ignore it, then you condone it!” you’ve done a classic job of explaining what I mean.
    I’ve made a statement, and you retorted on the amount of papers I’ve read, nothing about the Scottish Papers pretending it did not happen.
    “If you ignore it, you condone it”
    I wish I could remember which TIM was first to pen that on the shite.
17. Gogs 04.11.05 / 7pm

    Timahoy

    Re your comments about “if you ignore it, you condone it”

    This is an excerpt from a report today on the BBC website. (you probably missed this, as you were too busy trawling all the newspaper sites looking for reports on yesterday’s game)

    James Post, the president of another advocacy group, the Voice of the Faithful, said: “Cardinal Law continues to be the living symbol of the blackish blemish on John Paul II’s papacy.”

    The US Conference of Catholic Bishops and Cardinal Law himself have declined to comment on the affair, though he has apologised for “decisions which led to suffering” and resigned as archbishop in December 2002.

    Now what were you saying again….?
18. Timahoy 04.11.05 / 10pm

    Gogs ya wanker, do you honestly think that I condone all the actions of all secular people, give yer fekin head a shake and do something to right the wrongs in Scotland, once again I point out that you lot are not just a Protestant supporting bunch, I wouldn’t care if you were, I don’t care about any religious advancement organization, what you lot are is ANTI CATHOLIC and you’re scum for it, now do you condone the actions of some Hearts fans yesterday and will you support a minutes silence at Ipox?
19. Derek 04.12.05 / 8am

    Timahoy, I often have difficulty understanding what you mean, so I fail to see how I have explained what you mean.

    I have reread your comments and have failed to see where you condemn “it” and therefore by your reasoning you must condone it.

    I am also not 100% what you were referring to. I assume it was the disruption of the minute’s silence? Or perhaps it was also the sectarian songs and chants after it?

    Please note that I don’t agree with your assertion that if you don’t condemn it you must condone it anyway. There is lots of issues that I don’t comment on, but you can’t read my silence on the subject to mean that you know what my views are on the subject. However I have already stated my general views in a previous thread. I believe that your response to Gogs proves that you don’t believe the assertion yourself.

    I also fail to understand why you and many other people in Scotland seem to have the need to have Rangers fans show their respects. Why is that so important to you? Are you unable to show your own respects, without forcing it on other people?

    You seem to want to be outraged. Hence your need for getting as many reports on the issue from around the world and obviously reading as many reports from Scottish newspapers. I read 2 newspapers yesterday and I believe that they both contained quotes from people condemning the disruption of the minutes’ silence. Is that not good enough for you?
20. Jim 04.12.05 / 4pm

    Ashamed to be scottish. for the first time ever my engurlund mates had one up on me. living in nottingham,i give as good as i get. but not today. try as i mite i could not give them reason for the bigotry heard on over the :tv: screen’s today, they just could not understand why. dont these small minded bigot’s know the rest of the world is watching? how can they claim to be scottish and live with the shame, it begger’s believe
21. Jim McAra 04.13.05 / 2am

    Gogs
    You and possibly some others around appear to suffer from hunnitis. This is a terrible affliction of the retarded pict in the modern era where the symptom consists of incoherent ramblings of a despicable nature caused by an effort to type as quickly as possible the drivel reverberating between the ears so as not to forget as much as possible in the process.Somewhat akin to bears fishin for salmon. In recent years the degree of
    affliction has been clinically measured by teams of researchers in the medical world who have used a device called the hundumbfuchometer, a device that measures this disease on a logarithmic scale, the hundumbfuchter scale, similar to the more well know Richter scale. Clinical tests have proven that anything below a 6 on this scale can be soothed by the strategic placement of bowls of oranges around
    the house or the simple melodic tones of the flute. Between 6-9 requires the more cathartic treatment of a Catholic education a therapy that can take more than 10 years some have claimed. Anything above 9 on the hundumbfuchter scale requires the exorcism of being fucked up the ass by a catholic priest but this has yet to be proven as beneficial as it most probably more likely to cause the poor hun to die
    of shock.
22. Gogs 04.13.05 / 10am

    Jim McAra

    I don’t know about ‘dying of shock’, but I think being fucked up the arse by a Catholic priest is something a lot of people seem to have (allegedly) already experienced.

    Of course, that’s not an appropriate subject for a football message board either, but as you’ve previously shown with your Tsunami et al references, there’s no depths you won’t sink to in a pathetic attempt to justify your deluded points of view.
23. Jim McAra 04.14.05 / 1am

    Gogs
    2-0
    Think salmon….not salmonella!

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